Mark Hamill vs Rian Johnson on who to focus on when you want to influence

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At times, I’d say to Rian, “We gotta think of what the audience wants.” And he’d say, “No, we’ve gotta think of what wewant.” – Mark Hamill

Who’s right, Luke Skywalker or the new Star Wars director Rian Johnson?

They both are.

When we’re making a change, when we’re influencing, we do it with empathy. We travel to where the other person lives, where they are most comfortable. We unearth their unstated wants, desires, hopes and fears and try to address them.

But it doesn’t stop there. People need to help getting to their best selves. If we just cater to their lowest selves, that’s accommodation, not empathy.

We’d be best served to do the double emotional duty – bravely look at what’s underneath for the people we want to help and bravely look at what change we hope to do, what we know to be true, to stand for something.

True empathy, true influence, true connection, true change, true teams are built where “what the audience wants” and “what we want” meet.

And it all starts with what happens today.

“You can’t always get what you want. But if you try sometime, you just might find you get what you need.” – the Rolling Stones


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